• SM

  Shmuel Munkis -13 שנים לִפנֵי

  uplifting food!
  Rabbi! the class was very good! U mentioned that Moshe couldnt supply meat since he was not capable of uplifting...well u got me thinking the Rebbe wants us to eat Mezonoz befor davening! this is basicly telling us that the Rebbe is on such a level of Bittul to Hashem he could uplift even before prayer...unlike any Tzadik befor him!
  
  

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • RP

    Rabbi Paltiel -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: uplifting food!
    I think it's a mistake to compare us to dor hamidbar for quite obvious reasons. The Rebbe's approach to us (if I understand it correctly) is to be positive with us. If eating before Davening will make our Avoda more positive than it's good. Moshe was dealing with a dor Deah.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

• GB

  Gershon Beck -13 שנים לִפנֵי

  sound
  There is no sound of R Paltiel. only sound was music in the beginning

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • A

    Anonymous -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: sound
    I am not sure what you mean. It all seems to be working here. Are you referring to the MP3 or MP4 files?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • GB

      Gershon Beck -13 שנים לִפנֵי

      Re: sound
      I could not hear the sound of R Paltiel speaking for both the MP3 or MP4

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • GB

      gershon Beck -13 שנים לִפנֵי

      Re: sound
      perhaps something was amiss with my headphones, its working now, Thx again for the learning. It makes my day

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

• G

  gila -13 שנים לִפנֵי

  a question
  I understand MOshe Rabbenu did not feel he or his generation could eat meat and he even decided they could not handle fish. But then why was the solution quail? HOw is that more spiritual than fish? I was not really clear on that point. I know quail is from chesed, but what is fish from?

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • RP

    Rabbi Paltiel -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: a question
    I believe the answer lies in the detail of Shamnunis: the quail was very fat. Mystically fat represents G-dliness, and the quail to them was not a different birur but above bitur: physical food that enriched them and allowed them huge spiritual leaps. Like the gemara quoted in Tanya ch.
    
    7 with Rav Nachman etc.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

• SC

  Sam c -13 שנים לִפנֵי

  Conflicting approaches
  Forgive me for drawing parallels between your class on Behalotcha and shelach which is not discussed in your class but my question is this: you discuss how the maamer expounds upon the exalted level of the Jews in the desert and them demanding meat for consumption whether they are too aloof to elevate or not, according to chassidus the sin of the spies in this weeks torah portion was their wish to continue to live in the desert and live totally spiritual lives and not cultivate the material land and become entrenched and consumed by materialism, how does that reconcile and coalesce with a seemingly antithetical request for meat which is as coarse and corporeal as it gets (in this weeks parsha)???
  
  
  
  Thanks ahead,

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • BC

    Ben CH -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: Conflicting approaches
    Good Question and perhaps that is in fact a similarity in a subtle sense.
    
    Specifically though to answer ur Q, we need to look @ the source of the complaints. It was a) the Mraglim who (as leaders and on behalf of all) said they wanted to lead the higher plane life of the desert b)it was the 'erev rav' who demanded the requirement of meat.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • RP

    Rabbi Paltiel -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: Conflicting approaches
    The short answer is I don't know. We must remember that these were different groups of people. The Kivros HaTaava were initiated by the Erev Rav. As the Possuk says- they'll never be happy because what they want is to complain. Also elevating meat in the Midbar is hardly as worldly as conquering Eretz Yisroel. By way of comparison: Adam and Chava wanted Da'as Tov vaRa (intellectual connection) and got instead Hergesh Tov vaRa (They became the entanglement of good and evil).

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

• M

  ml -13 שנים לִפנֵי

  yechidus with rav kohen
  oib ich gedenk richtik, it was the son of the nazir in yerushalayim. and the Rebbe was suprized that his father didn't eat meat, because al pi kabala you should eat meat, because of birur etc.

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • RP

    Rabbi Paltiel -13 שנים לִפנֵי

    Re: yechidus with rav kohen
    Oib ich gedenk richtig the Nazir from Yerushalayim was Rav Cohen's father.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

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