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Christianity and the Talmud

Who Was Yeshu? The Rabbinic, Kabbalistic & Chassidic Sources

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Christianity in the Talmud and the Kabbalah. Who Was Yeshu? The Rabbinic, Kabbalistic, and Chassidic Sources. This lecture was presented on December 25, 2014, in Ohr Chaim Shul in Monsey, New York.

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menachem mendel Jacobson -1 שָׁנָה לִפנֵי
maybe even Reb Yecheel holds that there is in truth 1 yeshu and this that he said that there is 2 is because the one thats in the Christian wisdom is a ly after all the whole religion is a ly so also this detail of when he was born is a ly and the truth of him is the gimarah. so there is 2 the mith one and the real one. so if so its not now 2023 to the age of the birth of that jew. its more. so the world is in time living in a myth that its 2023. yasherkoach
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David -5 שנים לִפנֵי
Although Peter Brown does not deal directly with the Jewish aspects of redating the advent of Christianity into the 4th century, he provides a great deal of convincing research that Christianity did not exist before Constantine at all.

http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/index.htm

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David -5 שנים לִפנֵי
I wanted to highlight several points.

1) The Yeshu of the gemara and Toldos Yeshu Is not the Jesus of the New Testament.

2) The contrary is the case. The oral traditions about Ben Pandera were known in Rome and we're Incorporated into the New Testament while changing the century and other aspects.

3) There is no evidence in our sources for the existence of any of the characters of the new Testament in the first century in Judea. Not Jesus, not the Baptist, not Paul or anyone else.

4) In fact there are very solid reasons to say that the Christian religion did not even exist until the century of the new regime of Constantine and Eusebius.

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David -5 שנים לִפנֵי
One of the strangest things about Rav Yaakov Emden was that he actually wrote a justification of Paul and the New Testament while hatefully and relentlessly persecuting R. Yonasan Eibschutz, who had a perfect chezkas kashrus…..Incredible……
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Shimon -8 שנים לִפנֵי
Regarding business with a christian the Remo in Shulchan Aruch permits it because we consider the christian doing shituf and not idol worship.
However for a gentile himself the noyse kelim, that is if I remember correctly the primegadim, chsam sofer hold shituf is prohibited for the gentile himself.
To repeat; Regarding us, the way we treat business with a christian we say its ok. And for the Gentile himself shituf is prohibited according to the din.
And you said on a human level we do not consider a christian like an idol worshiper like the Meiri writes. However the religion itself is idol worship.
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  Charles -2 חודשים לִפנֵי
  Mr
  Please cite the meeri chapter and verse. I've investigated ( a little ) and think this is not the case.
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