• Anonymous -1 שָׁנָה לִפנֵי

  Thank you for your articulate and clearly explained lofty shiur. I enjoyed it a lot. Where can I find the original שיחה?

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  • Anonymous -1 שָׁנָה לִפנֵי

    I found it here: https://he.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2989220

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  isaac -5 שנים לִפנֵי

  Three Terms

  f I may add to your חידוש (it might be what you wanted to say) that the 3 phases (ideas) which Mordechi gave to Ester can be divided like this as well, the first thing was ממקום אחר which that is מה טוב חלקינו the second thing was ואת ובית אביך תאבדו which that is מה יפה ירושתינו and the 3rd is מי יודע which that is מה נעים גורלינו.

  And that's the only way how I can continue living my life with joy and peaceful with God is when I really understand all 3 and especially about my גורל!!

  BTW the vort about how people think by age 20, 40 and 60 I heard from r' Avigdor Miller, when I was maybe 10 years old and I remember that he repeated it from someone and he said that the first 20 years people are busy thinking what other people think. The next 20 people are busy not to care what other people think. And the next 20 they find out that no one ever cared about them, then he said that he would add to this that today there is another 20 (after 60) which people are asking others to care about them.

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  Yosef -5 שנים לִפנֵי

  twins

  I usually love your shiurim. This one however, has at least one major flaw. The Sfas Emes means identical twins, not fraternal twins. Obviously, a father and mother cannot be identical! There is no reason t discuss the feasability of twins being parents, since fraternal twins are not anymore likely to be similar-looking and sounding than any siblings.

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  • Anonymous -5 שנים לִפנֵי

    Point very well taken, thanks very much. Your point is that the Sefas Emes means that while goats can be identical twins and thus look alike, twins of opposite genders are not identical twins, but fraternal twins, and hence they will not appear identical more than two siblings. Hence, for the Ben Sorer Umoreh it will not work, because his father and mother are of two opposite genders.

    Yet, I think that my points holds merit, perhaps. For two reasons.

    Fraternal twins are as alike as any two siblings. They may look very different. They can have different hair color, eye color, stature, and personalities. Or, they may indeed be so similar that they are assumed to be identical, just as some siblings would be remarkably indistinguishable, if only they were the same age. Since this father and mother are the same age, it may work even if they are fraternal twins.

    Also, as we know, in rare instances, identical twins can change to become a male and female pair. This occurs when one half of the split fertilized egg loses a copy of its genetically encoded Y chromosome. This error generally happens early on the pregnancy. Though she will in most cases be infertile, I think there are rare instances where she may have the ability to reproduce. Hence, if they marry, these identical twins can produce the ben sorer umoreh.

    What do you think?

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      yosef jacobson -5 שנים לִפנֵי

      I just wanted to let you know that in the rare case of identical twins with one male and one female, it would seem the female would be infertile: (You didn't have any doctors in the audience? I guess they'd maybe have to be a geneticist too because this is not necessarily common knowledge!)

      From https://www.reference.com/s...

      This would challenge much of what you have said.

      A twin boy and girl may be identical, according to a study found on NCBI, although this situation is very rare. Usually identical twins share the same gender: they are either a pair or boys or girls. In rare instances, however, identical twins form from an egg and sperm that begin as males (sharing XY chromosomes) then change to become a male and female pair. This occurs when one half of the split fertilized egg loses a copy of its genetically encoded Y chromosome. This error generally happens early on the pregnancy.

      The babies that form include one defined male, who has the proper XY chromosomes required to create male reproductive systems and traits, and a female with XO chromosomes. Although categorized as female, the girl in the dual-sex pair exhibits outward traits of the female gender but carries only one copy of the X chromosome, rather than the XX chromosome used by biologists to classify females as such. Furthermore, the female child often lacks the hormones needed to grow properly and reproduce; as a result, she will be much shorter than the male and lack proper ovarian development. The official term for this condition is Turner Syndrome. It is quite rare and affects very few pairs of twins.

      ANOTHER INTERESTING CASE:

       
      If two identical male twins marry two identical female twins, their children are genetically siblings. Still not going to be identical as per the ben sorer umoreh. But you could have cousins who look very very similar in this case, as close as siblings could be.

      Your very avid listener.

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  azoz -7 שנים לִפנֵי

  hi I'd like to know if there any trusted version for Torah in Arabic or English?
  

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  Katz -7 שנים לִפנֵי

  Thank You for such an important topic we all need to hear ("derhern") today.
  I would like to bring out, its very interesting that when the Alter Rebbe writes in Tanye (32) about the Jewish soul that's in every Jew. He say these words; ...״מי יודע״ גדולתן ומעלתן !

  השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

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