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When Love Becomes Hate

The Tragic Story of Timnah, Amalek and King Manasseh

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When Love Becomes Hate- The Tragic Story of Timnah, Amalek and King Manasseh

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    sheena -8 years ago

    This shiur was brilliant! loved it! Thank you!!

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    bourchn -8 years ago

    Todah for the video. It seems like 'Menasseh' was a 'Reform' Jew...no? He knows better than G-d Alm-ty.

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    Chaim D -10 years ago

    Achos Lotan Timna
    Thank you so much for this shiur. I've been repeating it all week. Wonderful. 



    Every year when we read this parsha I am reminded....A good friend of my family in Detroit had yechidus with the Rebbe in the 60's, I believe, and one of the things he asked the Rebbe was for a brocha for hatzlacha in teaching and the Rebbe told him to tell stories. He looked at the Rebbe and asked "But Rebbe. Its bittul Torah!?" and the Rebbe got a serious look on his face and told him "VaAchos Loitan Timna." He wasnt sure what the Rebbe meant so the Rebbe explained that if the Torah can tell stories, so should you. He has been a master story teller for as long as I've known him and is still very well respected for his teaching in general but especially for his stories.

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    Naomi -10 years ago

    This explains a lot! II


    B"H


     


    Rabbi Jacobson,



    This shiur answers another question that have been bothering me for a long time:


     


    3. Why do some of my children fight with each other so much? I keep telling each of them to disregard what is annoying about the other and just go on with life, but they don't seem to be able to do that. Now I see why, to some extent.



    Here a few of my thoughts on these topics:



    a. For some reason, Hashem had to put into the world some children with super-charged yetzer horas. What better parents could these children have than righteous parents like King Chizkiyohu, and Elifaz & Timna. If Menashe had been born to wicked parents, he might have been much worse! However, it is still a profound mystery why Hashem wanted to put such wicked people into the world -- people who would drag down so many others with themselves. 



    b. Chazal say that King Chizkiyohu would have been Moshiach if he had sung shira after the miraculous victory over Sancheriv. When I read this statement, I think -- oh, what a shame, what a missed opportunity! If only he had done it! But, considering what you said in your shiur, it really seems impossible for Chizkiyohu to have sung shira. A shira is an expression of admiration of the perfection of Hashem's ways (to the extent that we can understand them). For a righteous person to have an extremely wicked child, despite his utmost efforts to educate him properly, seems so hurtful. How could someone sing shira while continually experiencing this horrible situation 24/7 for many years? Yes, a person could accept it and say "gam zu letova", but to sing shira about it -- I don't think that is possible to do in the golus era.


     


    Another question I have been wondering for a long time -- perhaps you can address this in a shiur:


    Why is Milkah, the wife of Nachor, mentioned so many times in Sefer Beraishis? The Chumash does not say anything about her, so why did she merit to have her name mentioned so many times (especially considering that women's names are not often mentioned in the Torah)?


     


    Thank you.


     

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    Naomi -10 years ago

    This explains a lot!
    Rabbi Jacobson,



    This shuir answers two questions that have been bothering me for a long time:



    1. Amalek had such righteous parents -- Elifaz and Timna. Elifaz refused to kill Yaakov even though his father told him to do so, because he grew up under the influence of Yitzchok. Timna left a life of royalty to become a mere concubine to a descendant of Avrohom and Yitzchok. So why did they have such a wicked son as Amalek?



    2. Why did the righteous Kink Chizkiyohu have such a wicked son as Menashe, and even though Chizckiyou tried his utmost to have a good influence on his son, it didn't seem to help.



    Thank you so much for addressing these questions!


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