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Are We Obligated to Have Meals on Chanukah?

The Rambam's Unique View on Chanukah

1 hr 42 min

Class Summary:

This is a text-based class by Rabbi YY Jacobson on a sicha about Chanukah by the Lubavitcher Rebbe in Likkutei Sichos vol. 10.

This class was presented on Sunday Morning Parshas Miketz, 27 Kislev, 5781, December 13, 2020, live from Rabbi Jacobson's home in Monsey, NY 

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    humble gaon -2 years ago

    @ 53:00 

    because as the gmara says there was no menorah at the time. they lit something else.

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    On the question about is this a difference between sefard and ashkenaz, it's interesting to note that it was the Rambam's father, Rabbeinu Maimon, who is the original source for eating doughnuts (sfinge) on Chanukah.

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    The sefer you mentioned that someone has come to the Rebbe and asked about the rambam in purim and chanuka.  Iirc the sefer is בארות נתן

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    The Rebbe

    • Usually the Rebbe gives a practical spiritual uplifitng point to tie everything. 
      a little suprised to see this end on that note. 
    • Amazing Shiur as always. 
    • A Freilichen Chanukah to you and your family!

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    • Anonymous -3 years ago

      To note this sicha was published for המאור, wasn't printed like the normal likut

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      S. Geisinsky -3 years ago

      Hi. 

      Interesting point. I would like to point out an amazing practical application that can be taken from the sicha's explanation of the Rambams opinion of how to celebrate Chanuka. 

      In order for a person to be thankful he must be emotionally connected to the event. Gratitude must first take on an external structure aligned to the inner celebration. our bodies must zone in, as it were, to the realm that we are greatfulness, whether physical or spiritual, that way we can fully experience what we are being grateful for. 

      Therefore on chanuka we celebrate in two distinct modes. The candles are the external structure that allow the spiritiual thankfullness to be fully experienced. The meat and wine which bring joy are the external structures that allow us to be completely gratefull physically. 

      On chanuka when we celebrate our physical and spiritual gratitude we focus in on the realm that i am thankful for thereby created a more wholesome and impactful experience that will make us truly grateful people. 

      Chanuka Sameach

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    Sara -3 years ago

    So the majority rule

     is not always the way to go??? And the majority is how many of the sages? only 2 vs. 1? hmmm....

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    Sarah Goldberg -3 years ago

    2 rabbinic yomim tovim. Purim and chanukah

    In the purim story it was a war to kill the Jewish bodies. Like the Naziis, ym"S.

    In the Chanukah story it was a  war to kill the Jewish soul. Like Communism a"H. 

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    Sara -3 years ago

    Everything is in Torah, yes?

    So Purim and Chanukah must be alluded to somehow in Torah. Do you know how and where?

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    • Anonymous -3 years ago

      Chanuka is in parshat bhaalosecha

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        Sara -3 years ago

        Do you have a specific reference?

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        • Anonymous -3 years ago

          See ramban in the beginning of the parsha

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      Sara -3 years ago

      So I found some answers to my question  about whether or not Chanukah is mentioned/alluded to in the Torah. 1-4 I found in chabad.org - 

      https://www.chabad.org/holidays/chanukah/article_cdo/aid/610029/jewish/Is-Chanukah-Mentioned-in-the-Torah.htm

      and 5 in an article https://torah.org/torah-portion/perceptions-5777-vayeishev/

      1) In the original Hebrew, the 25th word in the Torah is ohr, “light.” We begin lighting the Chanukah lights on the 25th day of the month of Kislev.

      2) When the Jews traveled in the desert, on their way from Egypt to the land of Israel, the twenty-fifth place that they camped (“rested”) was Chashmonah. This alludes to the Chashmonaim.

      3) The 23rd chapter of Leviticus describes the different Jewish holidays. Immediately afterwards, at the beginning of chapter 24, is the commandment to light the menorah in the Temple. This could be a hint to a holiday connected to the lighting of the menorah.

      4) The 7th chapter of Numbers describes the offerings that the tribal leaders brought when the Tabernacle was dedicated. Chapter 8 begins: “The L‑rd spoke to Moses, saying: Speak to Aaron and say to him, ‘When you light the lamps, the seven lamps shall cast their light toward the face of the menorah.’” This could be a connection between the dedication of the Temple and the lighting of the menorah. After the Maccabean war ended, the Jews cleaned, repaired and rededicated the Temple, and lit the menorah once again.

      5) AND regarding your specific answer about “utevo’ach tevach vehachein,” Verse 43:16. in Parsha Mikeitz, seems that those words have the numerical value of 44 which is the number of candles, including the shamashim that are lit throughpit the 8 days of Chanukah.

      AND the last five letters, beginning with the chet of "tevach and ending with the nun of vehachein are the same letters as Chanukah.  וּטְבֹ֤חַ טֶ֨בַח֙ וְהָכֵ֔ן

      ח֙ וְהָכֵ֔ן

      There may be and probably are more references that I haven't found, but even these are amazing to me. 

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    Sarah Goldberg -3 years ago

    2 miracles of chanuka, 2 miracles of Pesach

    1. The miracle of the oil--ruchnious miracle commemorated by Hallel, and the menorah.

    2. The miracle of the military victory and therefore our bodily salvation, a gashmious miracle  commemorated by Simcha and a seuda.

    BUT doesn't Pesach ALSO have BOTH 1.  a gashmius  miracle (leaving Mitzrayim, where no slave had ever escaped) commemorated by the matza maror, etc  AND 2.  a ruchnious miracle of Mattan Torah, the mann, the well, etc commemorated by the Hagadda? 

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    Sara Metzger -3 years ago

    Someone asked...

    Question for the chat: I'm not jewish, I was raised Christian, but have since lost a bit of the faith. how would you explain your religion to someone like me?

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    Sara -3 years ago

    This spiritual/physical connection. That the physical oppression was caused by the Greeks because the spiritual connection stayed, persisted within the Jews, !!!! The Greeks couldn't destroy the spiritual connection with GD so they went to physical oppression. And then the connection to Hallel, simcha, etc. Deep!

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    Sarah Goldberg -3 years ago

    The moon could complained when its light was diminished by the sun

    The rabbis Instituted 2 yomim tovim. Purim has the Megilla which itself  specifies the mitzvos to commemorate the miracle of the story of  purim. One of those mitzvos is the purim seuda.

    Chanuka is the other rabbinic yom tov. It too could have "complained " that it should not be celebrated any less than purim. (Though 8 days is greater than 1 or 2) and that therefore it, too, should have seudas mitzva(s).

    1. And if you say that  chanukah preceded purim, did the sun or the moon come first? A child born prior can complain that a later child "got more" like Yosef.  

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    Sarah Goldberg -3 years ago

    If Simcha is defined as a seuda with meat and wine

    • At least for men (clothing and jewelry fir women and toys and nosh for kids) then we should be eating meat and  wine,  NOT donuts and latkes! 

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    • Anonymous -3 years ago

      Should be noted, this sicha is about the rambam. Halacha however is like the gears. Chanuka is mainly about thanks

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      • Anonymous -3 years ago

        *Gemara

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    Sarah Goldberg -3 years ago

    We eat things today to remind us

    Isn't there an opinion that the mann tasted like a honey glazed donut?

     Also, wasn't there a korbon that was a wheat product that was cooked and baked and fried? 

     What is similar today? 

     Answer: bagel chips.

      Only bagels are cooked before being baked (makes them Chenier than bread). And then bagel chips are thin sliced cooked and baked bagels that are then fried as well.

      

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    Sara Metzger -3 years ago

    Someone asked...

    Hi. I am in Eretz Yisrael now hope to listen to class. I hv a woman on that I spoke w R yy ab. She will be listening. I hope u cn get the mesage to R YY. Sh is fasting and almost gone .. pls let me know Rebbe got the mesage.
    I’m sending her the link to the class to listen ..
    tht she Shud be eating expecially now on Chanuka !!

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    lichora pashut pshat why the rambam says yemey simcha is because hallel requires yemey simcha as the rambam says in halacha 6 and therefore there would not be a rayah that there was a separate reason to make yemey simcha but the simcha is needed to have halel vehodahולא הלל של חנוכה בלבד הוא שמדברי סופרים אלא קריאת ההלל לעולם מדברי סופרים בכל הימים שגומרין בהן את ההלל. ושמנה עשר יום בשנה מצוה לגמור בהן את ההלל ואלו הן. שמנת ימי החג. ושמנת ימי חנוכה. וראשון של פסח ויום עצרת. אבל ראש השנה ויום הכפורים אין בהן הלל לפי שהן ימי תשובה ויראה ופחד לא ימי שמחה יתירה. ולא תקנו הלל בפורים שקריאת המגילה היא ההלל:  

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    • Anonymous -3 years ago

      found griz in kuntrus chanukah and megilah says this siman 11

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    od mekorosרבינו שלמה פרחון ז"ל בספרו מחברת הערוך (ערך חנך) שכתב: "ויחנכו את בית ה' (מלכים א' ה') חנוכת הבית (תהלים ל'), פירושו אכילה בבית חדש בשמחה, ומזה נקראו ימי החנוכה שאוכלין בהן ושותין ושמחין", ומפורש דסובר דימי החנוכה ימי שמחה וכרמב"ם, ותלמיד הרמב"ן ז"ל ר"י ן' שועייב ז"ל בספר דרשותיו (ס"פ מקץ) כתב: "ותקנו חז"ל שלא להתענות ושלא לספוד באלו הימים, ולעשותן כמועדין שהם ימי שמחה", ובספר מנהגי רבינו שלום ז"ל מנוישטאט (סימן תק"מ) כתב: "ורבינו שלום אמר שבחנוכה יש לנהוג שמחה ומשתה, וכן הוכיח קצת מדברי הרמב"ם", ועיין בהערות שם.

    ובספר מנהגי מהר"ם מרונטברג (הלכות חנוכה דף ע"א) כתב: "וכל ישראל נהגו לשמוח בחנוכה לעשות משתה ושמחה, ויש שקורין אותו סעודת רשות, וראייתם מדאמר לשנה אחרת עשאום ימים טובים להלל ולהודאה, משמע אבל לא למשתה וליום טוב, ועוד ראיה מנוסח על הנסים וקבעו ימי חנוכה להודות ולהלל ולא למשתה ויום טוב" עכ"ל. ועיין בהערות שם. הרי שעם שהוכיח דימי חנוכה אינם ימי שמחה מכל מקום העיד שכל ישראל נהגו לשמוח בחנוכה ולעשותם ימי משתה ושמחה, ופוק חזי מאי עמא דבר היא הכרעה רבתי ודוק.

    ובספר סדר היום (עניני חנוכה דף רל"ד) כתב: "והתנו שאותם שמונה ימים יהיו ימים קבועים בכל שנה ושנה ימי ששון ושמחה" וכו', ושם (דף רל"ו) הוסיף וכתב: "ימי החנוכה אין להתעצב בהם כי אם להראות ששון ושמחה על כל הטוב שעשה עמנו אלהינו בימים האלו", והנה אף שכתב שימי החנוכה ימי ששון ושמחה לא הדגיש ענין הסעודה רק שלא להתענות ושלא להתעצב ודוק.

    ובהוספות שבשלחן ערוך הגר"ז ז"ל (סימן עת"ר סעיף ג') ראיתי שכתב: "יש חולקים ואומרים שגם למשתה ולשמחה נקבעו" וכו', ושם במראה מקומות (אות י"ג) ציין: מרדכי הארוך, רש"ל, רמ"א, ב"ח, מגן אברהם על פי מדרש ומגלת תענית, ועיין בה"ג, וכן דעת כלבו, וכן משמע ברמב"ם, ובשו"ת הרשב"א (סימן תרצ"ט), וברא"ש, וטור (ס"ס ת"כ) עכ"ל. ולפי זה רוב הראשונים ומכללם תרי עמודי ההוראה סוברים שימי החנוכה ימי משתה ושמחה וגם לאכילה ושתיה, ויש להבין מדוע נטה מרן ז"ל אחר דברי מהר"ם ושביק לכל הני רברבי, ועיין במאמרי הנדפס בקובץ זכרון יהודה ח"ב וצרף לכאן ודוק היט

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      Sara Metzger -3 years ago

      Can you post in English?

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Another source for the rambam days of simchaMegilas antoyochusעַל־כֵּן קִיְּמוּ בְּנֵי חַשְׁמוֺנַי קִיּוּם וְחִזְּקוּ אִסָּר וּבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל עִמָּהֶם כְּאֶחָדלַעֲשׂוֺת שְׁמוֺנָה יָמִים הָאֵֽלֶּה יְמֵי מִשְׁתֶּה וְשִׂמְחָה כִּימֵי מוֺעֲדִים הַכְּתוּבִים בַּתּוֺרָה וּלְהַדְלִיק בָּהֶם נֵרוֺת לְהוֺדִֽיעַ אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה לָהֶם אֱלֹהֵי הַשָּׁמַֽיִם נִצּוּחִים׃also mashma because of the milchama

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Likkutei Sichos Chanukah

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