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Gemarah Pesachim #57 -- Intro to Reb Chanina Segan HaKohanim
Rabbi YY Jacobson
1521 viewsDedicated by TheYeshiva.net in the loving memory of HaRav Hagaon Reb Reuven ben Reb Shmuel Yom Tov Scheiner Zt”l, Rosh Mesivta Torah Vodaas, who passed away on Monday, 19 Tamuz, 5779.
This class was presented on Tuesday Parshas Pinchas, 20 Tammuz, 5779, July 23, 2019 at the Ohr Chaim Shul, Monsey, NY
Gemarah Pesachim #57 -- Intro to Reb Chanina Segan HaKohanim
Rabbi YY Jacobson
Dedicated by TheYeshiva.net in the loving memory of HaRav Hagaon Reb Reuven ben Reb Shmuel Yom Tov Scheiner Zt”l, Rosh Mesivta Torah Vodaas, who passed away on Monday, 19 Tamuz, 5779.
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mati -4 years ago
most relevant in today's time during coronavirus .Instead of lingering days and nights over the virus himself ,counting the sick and the dead, is it not more appropriate to consider the similarities between the דינים of טומאה and טהרה and the virus .We have now a better view to try understand how was it possible for our ancestors to live a daily life full of traps, to become טמא i.e by any dead שרץ or אוהל המת .Life was continuously full of pitfalls !
How did they manage ?? And if they did ,how can we manage with all the safeguards we have to consider these days with the virus (quarantine,fomite ,etc ) ? You will admit it's pretty exhausting already to watch yr steps this way ,although we are only in to this for a few weeks !
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Ralph -4 years ago
dirty money?
My shver told me when he was a teenager he went to a chabad camp and the counselors had a sign on their door “money is the root of all evil; leave your evil here." The ideas was that monet was bad, so leave your bad stuff with us. something like that.
One time the rebbe came he saw it he made them take it down he said money is not bad; money could be the best thing in the world. It all depends how you spend it.
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Yitzi -4 years ago
sweeter than honey
Great. Finally, it does not feel so incomprehensible, far fetched and just way beyound us.You taught us the spiritual side of it, the depth behind it.
Also you made sure we do not allow the endless details to confuse us and take over the conversation here.
Today's class the intro to purity and imputiory was delicious, masuk m'dvash!
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Sholom -4 years ago
AHA
Eye opening. I had an AHA moment. The entire subject and process came to light in a new way.
I finally understood the sensitivity of a Neshamah of a Jew, which I never really understood.
What also came up for me: I travel a lot and over many years I have seen Chassidim of the Lubavitcher Rebbe ariound the globe, and how careful they are with food and so many other things. I never really understood why.
Not I got it.
I think the understanding of this is lacking in our Mosdos and our community.
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Isaac -4 years ago
A must watch
To understand this class, this class by Rabbi YY is a must watch:
https://www.theyeshiva.net/jewish/107
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reb aharon -4 years ago
chart/summary
D’roisa Halachas of Tumah & Tahara
Foods, beverages, people and vessels/clothes are susceptible to tumah.
Avi avos hatumah = human body, a mais strongest tumah
Person or kli touches a mais = now an av hatumah
or kli he touches, i.e. he’s the same level as other av hatumahs
Food or beverage touches a mais = a rishon “v’lad hatumah'
becuz tamai food cannot m’tamei man or kelim
Av hatuma – Always originates from a living being.
Term for anything w/capacity to convey tumah even to people & keilim.
They are:
Dead sheretz, neveila, metzora, zav or zava, nida,
Yoledes (woman gave birth), person or kli that touched a mais
Rishon - Rishon l’tumah – “v’lad l’tumah”
A person or kli or food or beverage that touched an av hatumah.
A rishon - can only m’tumay food & beverages (not people or keilim)
From V’yikra 11:34
Can’t convey tumah to people and keilim even if it’s on the level of an av in the
transmission chain
So, if food touches a mais, it’s not an av hatumah
but, is like an av by other foods making them a rishon when touched
But if becomes tamei mais anything it touches is a rishon
Sheni – “v’lad v’lad” – food or beverage that touched a rishon
Shelishi – food or beverage of terumah or kodshim that touched a sheni
Revii - food or beverage of kodshim that touched a shelishi
People & keilim – only gets tumah from an av hatumah or an avi avos
Can never go lower than a rishon ie never are a sheni or a shelishi
Foods & liquids - can become an av, rishon, sheni, shelishi or revii
Susceptibility to becoming what level of tamei:
Chullin - av, rishon or sheni
sheni chullin (14a2 #6) is pasul – may be eaten; unfit to become kodesh
Terumah - av, 1, 2, or 3. shelishi terumah = pasul
Kodshim - av 1, 2, 3, 4.revii kodshim = pasul
One opinion – tumah revii is d’rabanan
General Info:
Liquids: “yad shochat dam” -- yayin, devash, shemen, chalav, tal, dam, mayim
Wine, honey, oil, milk, dew, blood, water
Susceptible to tumah d’roisa
Machshir (prepare) foods – foods become susceptible to tumah only after
being wetted by one of these liquids (w/some additional requirements)
Fr Machshirin 6:4 w/Rambam V’Yikra 11:38
Cohenim are careful w/tahara of hands.
Usually can’t mitamey a man w/a kli so a kli is never an av hatumah except if
kli cheres touches a mais - kli becomes an av - anything the kli touches = rishon
“Tamei” – is able to convey tumah to its genre
“Pasul” – can’t convey tumah ex. A shelishi terumah ex. A revii kodshim
Can’t eat it – cuz it tamei Can’t transmit tumah to like genre
People & keilim – tahor w/a mikve May touch/eat chullin & eat maiser sheni
Tovel yom – waiting period fr mikve until sunset (he’ch’raiv shemesh) –
V’Yikra 12:4
May not eat terumah or kodshim - if touches, makes them a shelishi
People & keilim tamei mais – 7 day process to m’tahair
require sprinkle w/H20 mixed w/ashes of parah adumah and mikve
Zav or zava or yoledes
Also “m’chussar kippurim” – V’Yikrah 12:8 “lacking atonement”
till they bring a korban the following day
may eat terumah, can’t eat kodesh. If touch kodesh makes it a revii
Kli cheres – must be broken V’Yikrah 11:33,35 no way to m’tahair
Tumah & taharah important in regard to kodesh only
Maser sheni, terumah & kodshim
Need to protect fr tumah
If tamei – unfit to eat, must be burned
Chullin – food or keilim or beverages
If tamei – ok to eat, ok to use will emanate tumah to kodesh foods
Can’t carry into Temple, can’t designate as kodesh
Kodshim tamei: assur b’hanah, must burn w/o hanah
Terumah tamei: mutar b’hanah for Cohenim – may burn as fuel or heat or light
Devarim 18:8
14a4 #24
Food can’t m’tamei another food, even kodshim d’roisa (Ravina 14a)
Haggai 2:12, Rashi – by kodshim food can m’tamey other food
14b2 #9:
Beverages – machlokes Tannaim
Can tamei beverage or can m’tamey a food -- d’roisa or only d’rabanan
#10:
“Techilah” – a beverage that is a rishon
D’rabanan by touching a rishon or a sheni a beverage is a rishon
#12:
D’rabanan – often make a person or a keli a sheni
then if the person or kli touch terumah it becomes pasul.
To protect terumah fr possible d’roisa tumah Shabbos 13b – 17b
D’rabanan – Beverage is a rishon even if it touches a sheni d’rabanan) makes beverages a rishon if touched
exception: tavul yom – makes beverages of terumah or kodesh a shlelishi
14b3 #13:
Av hatumah – must be d’roisa tamei ie. no case of a d’rabanan av hatumah
Rishon / v’lad – may be d’rabanan
D’roisa – foods & beverages never av hatumah
Kli can’t be m’tameid by less than an av hatumah (14a #3)
D’rabanan – tamai beverage (always a v’lad, a rishon) can m’tamei a
kli, makes it a sheni
Mishna Pesachim 14a
R Chanina S’gan Cohenim: May burn basar sh’nitmah v’valad hatumah w/ basar sh’nitmah b’av h’tumah even tho they added tumayh to its tumah.
R Akiva: May light oil (of teruma) that was pasul thru touching a tevul yom (makes the oil a sh’lishi) in a lamp touched by one who is tumay meis
R Meir: From their words we learn,
may burn tahor (chametz) of teruma with tamei on erev Pesach.
R Yosi: Not analogous.
R Eliezer & R Yehoshua agree:
Tahor (chametz) terumah with tamei terumah on erev Pesach -
– burn each by itself
Argue: on talua (suspended) terumah & tamei terumah
R Eliezer – burn separately
R Yehoshua – burn together
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