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Yud Tes Kislev Farbrengen with Rabbis YY & Shais Taub: Tanya for Our Times

We Are Not Bad People Trying to Be Good; We Are Broken People Trying to Be Whole

6 שעה 25 דקות

סיכום השיעור:

Rabbi YY Jacobson lead a Farbrengen for Yud-Tes/Chaf Kislev together with Rabbi Shais Taub, with musical accompaniment by Eli Marcus & Yisroel Edelson. The event was on Wednesday evening, 20 Kislev, 5782, November 24, 2021, at the Ohr Chaim Shul, 20 Forshay Rd (Tent ג'), Monsey, NY.

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  • Anonymous -19 ימים לִפנֵי

    Hi,

    Im trying to download the farbrengen for yud tes kislev but its not allowing me to?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Anonymous -1 חוֹדֶשׁ לִפנֵי

    WOW! WOW! this was something out of this world every minute is a jem

    Rabbi YY and Rabbi Taub you rock the house down!!

    Thank You so much!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Y

    Yossi -5 חודשים לִפנֵי

    Changed my life!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Anonymous -2 שנים לִפנֵי

    I new R usher arkovitz , i couldnt stop crying  hearing this  amazing unbelevable story, that one good man with one good word can save a humen being mamesh, phsicly and spirtatlly , d

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • MG

    Malkah Gittel -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Please help me locate the chapter(s) in Tanya which point to the idea that Animal Soul is NOT synonymous with Yetzer Hara.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    What is rabbi yy email adress?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Who was you leader -- is GD not still there?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

      you ask dumb questions

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

      • K

        Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

        Was that truly a dumb question, or, were you not able to comprend the meaning/depth?

        השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • YSE

    yehudah stillman efrat -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    no words to express the magnificance of this deep interplay between to great chassidim of the Rebbe. 

    you guys exceeded all your limitations. Yashar Koach. fantastic discussions of the basics of the Tanya!

    thank you!!!!!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    This was a beautiful evening of revealation and deepening...an opportunity to awaken to the habitual and preceedurally learned ways that we have all learned to survive, which block us from thriving and fearlessly embracing Hashem, others and ourselves...

    However, with all due respect I feel that there was a missed opportunity to model how to really be present to and with another. About six hours into the night with Mendel... Rabbi YY I loved how you began to physicalized an intellectual concept with him.You brought him near, gently turned him, physically essentially aligning yourself him. However, he wasnt getting the concept...and was saying over and over "I don't get it". In the end he put his head on the table and appeared so alone, unheard and withdrawn. I was  shocked...that was a complete re-enactment of exactly what you are so deeply trying to verbalize and speaking about trying to repair...I was also shocked that not one man there put their hand on his shoulder to comfort him... In my mind I had hoped that you would bring Mendel back and let him bring you near, gently turning you so that you could see and hear what he needed to be heard and deeply understood.

    I offer this with all due respect ...thank you for your unrelenting toiling with the deepest of the deep

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

      I agree, I wish someone would've given him a hug...

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • K

      Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

      Jacob had to wrestle with Gd alone.  To run to one wrestling with the things of Gd is flesh.  Flesh cannot meet the need of the soul!

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • M

    Molly -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    The truth about us

    At first you may feel OMG 7 plus hours it's not even worth starting.....

    But take it at your speed and listen to every word !

    You might even want to hear it all over so it actully goes in and becomes part of you.

    See for yourself..... 

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • D

    Devorah -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    With all respect Rabbis, I’ve been watching virtually for the last 5 1/2 hours and wondering whether you could address some more of the questions. I sent one in anonymously regarding going through challenges and depression.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • A

    abe -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    please dont use rhw word " (they) can't", as one should never underestimate the power of Bechira

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Or, let me embrace that scared, confused child within that was trampled because ivalue that child.  I will love the crying child within until he heals and can live and feel again.  I will show that child who Gd knows he is as His creation!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • P

    peretz -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    Rabbi Taub mentioned that the nefesh elokis is seeking Gd in its pursuit of fulfillment, and that the nefesh habahamas is just trying to survive, and not seeking closeness to Gd. 1)I faintly remember there being a maamer in Likutei Torah where it is stated that the draw to pleasure of the nefesh habahamis is an expression of the spiritual delight of the nefesh elokis (closeness to Gd (hasagas elokus) - but by the parameters of the nefesh habahamis? how could we then say the nefesh habahamis is "trying to survive"?! IT IS TRYING TO CONNECT

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Y

    y -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    hamtakat ha... bsharoshom. is the key!!!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    They say you stop growing at the point of trauma.  Growing again, with new life, and that from Gd, is key!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • YG

    Yochanan Gordon -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    In light of the new definition of Yetzer Hora; I wanted to ooont out the word “ra” comes from ra’ua which means feeble, weak and essentially broken.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Or, nobody taught me the social skills needed to succeed!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    I'm broken...or, I believe the lies of the serpent who said I was trash when Gd said I was His beloved creation?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    You are not just wonderful because of who you are. You, like GD, are wonderful because you are His creation, which was created in His image.  All things of Gd are wonderful beautiful, etc.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • C

    Chaya -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    Crying out from Los Angeles- Hashem took away our LEADER from us….How do we move forward??

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Or, like Eve and the serpent -- you will be like GD..do it my way!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Ah, you survive by and through the law of Gd and it's covering, protection, power and vengeance!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    And, when GD tells you who you are to Him personally, nothing else will ever matter again!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    A holy relationship, not just a relationship.

    A relationship steeped in love for GD and His ways!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    So, if one is really looking for Gd, is the reason child abuse is prevalent because folks are trying to access a certain aspects of the purity of Gd only available through a child?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • A

    abe -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    so a frum therapist just means theyre a therapist and also frum. but doesnt mean the therapy is a frum one, alpi torah, tanya etc. may hashem save children from such sins

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • A

    Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    I think it is very disrespectful to refer to an alcoholic as a “drunk” - that is NOT reminding someone that they are a piece of Gd MAMASH. Thank you

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Ah, but the angel had to come to Jacob to wrestle first!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • K

    Kj -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Looking for Hashem in the flesh is still flesh.  Looking for Hashem in alcohol is flesh!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • CH

    Chaya Hornstein -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    wow!! thx! may it be a zchus!!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Anonymous -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    Ok. So we dont exist, but we feel like we exist, and Hashem is recreating us into something that is non-existent and this non existent human is here to serve Hashem?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • M

    Malka -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Is this working for anyone else? I don't see the feed. 

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • TJ

    Tzvi Jacobs -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    I have joined a a Jewish mindfulness group. One of the exercises is be aware of breathing, or on your feet. Etc it works for many people. I asked my teacher and He does hitbonenus by meditating on a Chassidus concept that talks to me and staying with it for a long time. Either way is a challenge for me. What is your opinions?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • S

    Shmuel -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    How can we actually apply chassidus into our life?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • ML

    Mordechai Litzman -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Sound

    The only sound that works now is the piano. It looks like people are singing but no sound from any other feed.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • YS

    Yechiel Silber -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    Is the avodah of merirus and bitush described in Tanya still meant to be done today? If so, how should it be done?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • R

    Rochel -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    I love your questions people!! I second them all!

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • CP

    chana p -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    how do you prevent burn-out

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • BC

    bracha cohen -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    hi deos it say anywhere in chassidus how to deal with jealousy ?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • D

    Debbie -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    We're always learning that Hashem will continually give us challenges. So are we to think whenever things are a little bit better and there is finally some sense of calmness, there will/must always be a  storm to follow? I have been in such depression and anxiety and now for whatever reason Hashem has brought in a sense of calmness. I daven every day to hold onto this and daven to Hashem so, I knw this might sound strange, that he understands this calmness allows me to focus on doing Chesed... for other people and concentrate less on only myself - which tends to happen when one finds themselves in an abyss. There is a part of me just waiting...

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • MB

    Moshe B. -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    OK, this one is a heavy one... Why do we in general feel so lonely, depressed, or generally empty? I'm not talking about happiness or lack thereof, but rather the persistent feeling that I am an empty soulless existence, and the sadness that accompanies it. Even when keeping the Torah, and getting excited for it, and being involved. And How that that be fixed?- Meaning, what can I do?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • T

    tzivia -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Esteemed Rabbis,, Presumably you will address this tonight since you are both very up to date in somatic therapies, embodied healing etc...AND excellent practitioners of the Tanya as a guide for living.

    The Tanya, as I understand it, seems to be a book on behavioral therapy/ a mind over matter method/ a 'keep you eye on the goal and push through the pain to get there' approach.

    How does that line up with so much of what we are learning today about the body keeping the score?

    None of the above-stated methods help us arrive at homeostasis where our survival brain and thinking brain are aligned. Our thinking brain is demanded to be on overdrive to achieve all of the above. Behaviors lay down new neural pathways and lead to change over time- beautiful. But even for a person in his executive functioning space, with no external triggers/threats, forcing thinking brain override (the CBT approach, and the Moach Shalit al Halev approach) we risk kindling (triggering of a memory capsule/ increasing internal sensitivity so that even when the external situation is safe, our survival brain neurocepts danger!) I.e if we are not healing internal dysregulation, behavioral therapy is not only ineffective, but coutner-productive. 

    (For example: Think of a child with social anxiety disorder, being taught how to socialize and now having a stronger awareness of how ineffective his current toolkit is! We are giving him thinking brain override tools rather than healing an internal dysregulated state.)

    So my question to you - where does chassidus address

    a) survival brain/thinking brain alignment/homeostasis.

    b) Healing from allostatic load/ rather than simply addressing the thinking brain override method.d) who is the Tanya addressing -

    (only those who have a somatic practitioner and are fully healed?) 

    Rabbi Taub- if I still have your attention, this link brought to mind ALL of the above questions. https://www.soulwords.org/video/how-to-be-here/  (In my understanding) You discuss anxiety from a THINKING brain place. I am assuming this is from a few years back, and I am wondering if you would approach this from a different place today? Or at least reframe it?

    And if yes, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR the updated version. How does Chassidus approach anxiety as a sensation rather than a thought? Now that we know that "Thinking it away" doesn't help. 

    With awe and respect of your great minds and commitment to sharing the wisdom,

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Z

    zvi -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    My wife has a question: why is it that by a yiddishe mother, whatever she does and how much she does, there will always be other things left to do?.....

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • I

    isaac -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    I have a question that has been bothering me for a long time. Why should a person believe if what he thinks or feels is right if we can have so many issues that make us interpret things the wrong way? Why is our perspective correct?

    For example, if a person keeps on hurting me, how do I know if that person is doing something wrong or I'm am just super sensitive and should not be getting hurt?

    Thank you.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • Y

    Yoel -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    I have been listening to your shiurim for a couple of years as you maybe heard thousands of times the god that I was raised to believe in is a punishing monster so although I'm frum my relationship with God is that I would love to run away from him but no matter were I go he's also there.

    I really wanna change my hashkafa on god but i can't find the Judaism that you talk about anywhere!! I'm really traumatized by the image i have of god and after going to therapy i still can't change that part in me one reason may be because I'm not totally sure that my hashkafa is not correct because I open Jewish books and see the same; I hear rabbis talk the same.

    So maybe you are really in the wrong and my trauma is justified, that is real Judaism?!

    My question is can you recommend me a book or something to change the way I see G-d and also how is it that books that were written by big Jewish personas teach such a distorted image of god thank you for your shiurim. You are the best! 

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • AJ

    A JEW -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    DOES TAYNA ADREESES TRAUMA

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • L

    leaah -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    question

    My actual deep question is how much are we supposed to listen/trust the opinions and studies of renowned speakers who speak about Trauma and anxiety but don’t believe in God and have an entirely different view of the world, the reason for creation, and why we’re in this world.

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • H

    Hillel -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Question for Rabbi YY

    How do I get an 11 year old boy to understand that it's not okay to be chutzpadick (like imitating the rebbe in class) to his rebbe and not hurting my kids feeling ?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

  • MA

    Menachem Angster -3 שנים לִפנֵי

    Women coming to the fabrengen

    Is there going to be a place for women to come for the fabrengen?

    השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • A

      Admin -3 שנים לִפנֵי

      Yes there will place for women by farbrengen on other side of mechitza

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

    • YYJ

      Yosef Yitzchak Jacobson -3 שנים לִפנֵי

      Yes

      השיבו לתגובה זו.סמן את התגובה הזו.

Yud Tes Kislev 5782 Farbrengen

Rabbi YY Jacobson

  • November 24, 2021
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Dedicated by David and Eda Schottenstein in loving memory of Hadassah bas Schneur Zalman Lebovic

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