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Beyond a Judaism of Reward & Punishment: The Secret of 15 Av

Ask Not What Your Spouse Can Do for You: Felling Trees in the Sweltering Heat

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This women's class was presented on Tuesday Parshas Va'eschanan, 12 Av, 5779, August 13, 2019 at the Ohr Chaim Shul, Monsey, NY

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Anonymous -2 שנים לִפנֵי
Source
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Shlomo -3 שנים לִפנֵי
Whats so especial about this family of 20 of Av?
Whats the special proof that the family from 20 Av was more special?

I understood because they were saving wood for the entire time until 15 of Av and aafterthat there wont be anymore aavailabl for the Altar, but from class, your explanation doesnt make sense to me, because they, as a family are allowed to chop wood for them even after 15 of Av, so we cannot say they wont have any wood for themself after 15 of Av, unless you have to say they saved the wood the whole time, or the best wood (the one without worms etc from before 15 of Av, instead of saving for themselves,) they gave (it) to the Altar..
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Menachem Solomon -3 שנים לִפנֵי
Whats the Source?
Hey Rabbi Y.Y - love this Shiur. Do you mind sharing some sources to this Torah?

Thanks in advance.
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Moshe -5 שנים לִפנֵי

Hi Rabbi,

You mentioned in your lecture about the 15th of Av about the origin of the Baal Shem Tov's soul.
Rabbi Yossi Paltiel quotes a letter form The Baal Shem Tov himself to his brother-in-law, Rav Gershon Kitover, written in the "genizah hachasados", about the origin of his own soul. There he mentions a few details of the story that seem a bit different than what you said, but mainly - after the person (who created a commotion in heaven by his Bar Mitzvah) passed away, he was brought to Beis Din Shel Ma'ala. They found no flaws until one angel came and said "how can it that from such a holy soul, no-one benefited?" The soul was ultimately sent back down "with the purpose to reveal a new drench in Torah based on the principle of 'loving your fellow Jew as yourself', which would pave the way for Moshiach".

He quotes the letter in "Lecture One" in the following link: https://insidechassidus.org/baal+shem+tov+new

Thank you for all your help.

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Rivky -5 שנים לִפנֵי
Your classes are amazing!!
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Esther -5 שנים לִפנֵי

Hi I just finished listening to
Beyond a Judaism of Reward & punishment
The secret of 15 Av
I'm in shock I never ever knew at about this day I just heard yesterday it's a segula for shidduchim but didn't understand why
As I started cooking today I always scroll down the yeshiva net and saw this I learned so much so much deepness that it made my heart as a Jewish mother swell
. The jews cutting wood for someone else that sinned
. Wood plain wood not donating a building giving money plain wood
. How u spoke about husb and wife st we do things for our hub kids HASHEM we feel like we do nothing just reg things im not running chesed organization parlor meeting...... But u just emphasize the Real thing the real truth it made me feel like HEY I do a lot of things ” like cutting wood ” for my husb kids myself but never took joy in it felt so foolish
Story w Bal them tov wow
Yom Kippur how we reach a deeper level
Ty so much for this informative speech u made my day I Feel SO TALL and good
Hope I was clear tried my best to give over my mess
Have a gut shabbas

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Yosef Lange -5 שנים לִפנֵי
Truth
Dear Rabbi Jacobson,

As I was reviewing this lecture a thought came to me. The word Truth has the word Ruth in it.

All the best and thank you for all you do.

Yosef Lange
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Moshe -5 שנים לִפנֵי
Truth for it's own sake, not for reward
Question: Did yidden mourn and observe Tisha bav after the dying on that day stopped and they entered and conquered settled the land until Shiloh or the first Beis Hamigdash was built? Or during the first? Surely they did after the first destruction. Did they mourn and observe during the second?

Yes, Yom tov when stopping to cut wood. Why not Yom tov when starting to cut? Yes, cut off date, no pun intended, but was there a start date? Also, wood was only one of many things required to keep the Beis Hamigdash going. Annual half shekel collected for the budget. Why wasn't the wood in that budget? And surely many other requirements for up keep other than wood. Why was wood singled out for special attention compared to other needs. We don't only honor the shul donor who pays the heat, but also the donors who pay other bills.

Yes, it's hard work to chop wood in the heat of the summer. But a rich family who can donate wood for the entire nation, could hire workers for this lowest of professions?

Yes, we go for Truth regardless of reward. Actually sometimes going for Truth leads to the opposite, seemingly. ,
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Chaim -5 שנים לִפנֵי
Source sheet or citations?
Is there a source sheet? or footnotes where the mishna is?
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